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EXCLUSIVE: WikiLeaks Party of Australia: Fans of Margaret Thatcher?

The new WikiLeaks Party of Australia just launched a couple of weeks ago, and we were wondering what this would mean for WikiLeaks politically.  Because running for high political office causes the “powers that be” in a capitalist society to question your allegiance to many things, first and formost, your allegiance to the capitalist class and their greed-based capitalist system, responsible for all the poverty and war taking place on planet Earth as you read this.  “What will the WikiLeaks Party’s position be in relation to the continued existence of the capitalist system?” we wondered.  Will they end up being attacked for being “unpatriotic” by not wrapping themselves in the Aussie flag and swearing fealty to capitalism?  How will they respond to those attacks?

We just had a fascinating chat online with someone whose chat name is “nafebrown” in the official chat room of the WikiLeaks Party website.  Apparently, it is in charge of the WikiLeaks Party’s official chat… and it can kick people off the chat who it believes are insufficiently respectful of the memory of one Margaret Thatcher!

Our chat started out innocently enough.  Made small talk – for only a little while – about trivialities. 

<wlp_FoWLChicago> Is there anybody out there?
<nafebrown> morning
<wlp_FoWLChicago> good… morning?  Not morning here, mate!
<wlp_FoWLChicago> It’s 4:34PM on Thursday

Then we got right off to a bad start:

<wlp_FoWLChicago> LOL maybe you meant “mourning” as in “mourning for Maggie Thatcher”? lol
<nafebrown> lol
<nafebrown> Im actually surprised at how many people are talking about her all over the globe
<nafebrown> Here in NSW it seems to be the hot topic everywhere.
<wlp_FoWLChicago> She made a huge impact in her time.  Almost exclusively bad.  If she did any good we never heard of it
<nafebrown> she did alot of good, its just that she also did alot of bad lol
<wlp_FoWLChicago> What good did she do?

At this point we’re thinking: oh well, a troll in the chatroom.  We’ll play with it for a while; maybe it’s a young naive activist who’s head has been turned by the incessant pro-Thatcher propaganda on the news since she finally died.  But, no.

<wlp_FoWLChicago> What good did she do?
<wlp_FoWLChicago> Take your time thinking about that! lol
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<nafebrown> sorry
<nafebrown> privatisation of many industries to name one
<nafebrown> getting UK out of debt and changing it from being one of the poorest countries in europe to being one of the richest
<nafebrown> their whole wars against the argentinians needed to happen, and she made it so

Damn!  That’s a pretty fulsome defense of that hideous pig, Maggot Thatcher, smasher of the British Miners Union, anti-hero of the Great Falklands War ™, torturer of IRA prisoners like Bobby Sands! But, still, just a troll, right? Check out this exchange:

<wlp_FoWLChicago> I’m sorry, everything must be upside-down to you in Oz… here that was all bad lol
<nafebrown> How so?
<nafebrown> how is getting out of debt bad?
<wlp_FoWLChicago> Privatization cost tens of thousands their jobs, towns are still economic wastelands 30 years later
<nafebrown> Or is it because the US are so far in debt that its now seen as a good thing? 😛
<wlp_FoWLChicago> The UK isn’t “out of debt” any more than the US is; and as far as UK being one of “richest” countries in Europe, not true for workers.
<nafebrown> wlp_FoWLChicago, back when she was in power, it was
<wlp_FoWLChicago> No, you’re looking at these questions from standpoint of capitalist class of UK, not from working class perspective.  Thatcher’s policies decimated UK workers standards of living just as Reagan’s did here.
<nafebrown> your argument is based on a mining sector that had it a long time coming
<wlp_FoWLChicago> The war in the Falklands was a disaster, wholly unnecessary, thousands were killed over that tiny island to make sun rise on long-gone British Empire once more
<nafebrown> and a poll tax that while wasnt popular really assisted in getting the country out of recession
<wlp_FoWLChicago> Look, “getting the country out of recession” in the eyes of whom? The poll tax was a savage attack on the working class, making them pay for the bankruptcy
of capitalist system
<nafebrown> In the eyes of the world. The data is clear wlp_FoWLChicago.
<wlp_FoWLChicago> No the data is highly politicised.  Propping up the capitalist system by slashing the jobs and wages of the workers is good for the 1%, not for the majority
<wlp_FoWLChicago> Look, Maggie has us arguing even now about it!
<wlp_FoWLChicago> Rotten beast she was.
<wlp_FoWLChicago> Are you a rich man or a worker?
<nafebrown> wlp_FoWLChicago, we can have differing opinions but please dont disrespect the dead. Makes those that do no different to Westboro

A supporter of the Poll Tax!?  Well it went on and on. And then, finally, this:

<nafebrown> our government saved us through stimulus and icnreased spending
<nafebrown> ironically almost the polar oppisite of what thatcher did
<wlp_FoWLChicago> Besides the point.  In a modern capitalist society, 70% of a nation’s economic activity comes from consumer spending.  US in a recession because millions of
workers ain’t paid shit, have no money to spend, therefore: recession.
<nafebrown> wlp_FoWLChicago, the link i showed you earlier has the data
<nafebrown> but now you ignore it?
<wlp_FoWLChicago> Your government didn’t “save” you from anything.  The business cycle goes up and down.  Australia’s capitalist economy will have a recession sooner or later.  It probably helps you that, being in the southern hemisphere, your economy is running at full-tilt when ours in in the middle of the winter doldrums; and you benefit by having your winter at a time when the food production in Northern Hemisphere is at peak, with lowest prices of the year.
<wlp_FoWLChicago> There’s a number of reasons why your economy didn’t tank, probably chief among those the fact that Aussie banks were investing in mining while their European and American counterparts were investing in the US housing bubble?
<nafebrown> wtf
<nafebrown> wlp_FoWLChicago
<nafebrown> you have no idea lol
<wlp_FoWLChicago> No idea?
<nafebrown> you now make assertions about an economy only moment ago ddint know werent actually in recession
<nafebrown> an economy where only moments ago you were arguing our cost of living is less
<wlp_FoWLChicago> I study world economics – it may surprise you to know that the fact that Australia is or isn’t in a recession at this moment in time is of no real significance; unless the rest of the world pulls out of “their” recession soon, Australia will sink like a rock; especially if demand for raw materials declines
<nafebrown> wlp_FoWLChicago, yet we are as strong as ever. funny that
<nafebrown> back shortly
<wlp_FoWLChicago> It’s just a matter of time; Australia’s “genius” politicians haven’t found the secret of how to stay out of a recession.  If they had that formula they might do their allies in the US and Europe a favor and share it with them.
<nafebrown> we did
<nafebrown> and hasnt obama been talking about stimulus packages and such?
<nafebrown> why do you think our treasurer was labelled the best treasurer in the world?
<wlp_FoWLChicago> You are full of silly talk.  Australia just barely avoided going into recession in 2009; it’s economy is, as I said, deeply tied to China’s (which is slowing down) and to mining (mining has risen from 20% of GDP to 40% of GDP in Oz.  As China goes, so goes Australia.
<wlp_FoWLChicago> And what happened to your silly claim that Thatcher “got the UK out of debt”?
<nafebrown> wlp_FoWLChicago, you like insulting people dont you?
<wlp_FoWLChicago> Not “out of recession”: “out of debt”?
<nafebrown> first a dead lady, now me
<nafebrown> keep insulting people and you’ll find yourself not welcome here.
<wlp_FoWLChicago> That was no “lady” that was Maggot Thatcher
<wlp_FoWLChicago> So what about this “Australian miracle”? Putting the nation’s eggs in one basket: China!  God Save Communism!
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Then, this nafebrown character continued the conversation privately:

<nafebrown> you were warned
<wlp_FoWLChicago> You’ve been exposed.
<nafebrown> Exposed? Oh please
<nafebrown> I have no issue with you disagreeing with me
<nafebrown> but Im not going to tolerate insults
<wlp_FoWLChicago> Just now on Twitter.  As a fan of Maggot Thatcher’s draconian economics
<nafebrown> By all means, have a differing opinion but the moment you start insulting others is the moment I remove you from the chat room
<nafebrown> and its as simple as that
<wlp_FoWLChicago> And I saved the chat so now we’ll publish it on our blog.
<wlp_FoWLChicago> Like, right now.
<wlp_FoWLChicago> Have a nice WikiLeaks Party.
<nafebrown> wlp_FoWLChicago and by doing so you’ll likely ruin everyones ability to have mature discussions because you chose to be insulting
<nafebrown> its as simple as that
<wlp_FoWLChicago> Bye, got to go post your stupidity on the blog.  Have a nice day!
<nafebrown> so go do your tweets and run your blog. it doesnt change the fact that you were unable to hold mature discussion

Well, you be the judges.  We are curious as to what the WikiLeaks Party’s response will be to this debacle.  Here is the entire chat transcript: is this the kind of thinking animating the supporters of the WikiLeaks Party?  We sincerely hope the fuck not!

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<wlp_FoWLChicago> Greetings from Chicago, IL
<wlp_FoWLChicago> Enjoying this new cable release and our FoWL Twitter account.   Getting good at meeting 140 char limit
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<wlp_FoWLChicago> Hello
<[…]> hi there!
<wlp_FoWLChicago> Hello Omar
<wlp_FoWLChicago> Whats up
<[…]> not alot
<[…]> 🙂
<wlp_FoWLChicago> We’re reading the new cable info and finding some potentially  libelous analysis of them being published by WikiActivists
<[…]> kewl 🙂
<wlp_FoWLChicago> Kewl?  No, not kewl.  We’re writing a new article about Libel laws  in the US as we chat here, to warn activists how not to poke the hornet’s nest of libel laws
<wlp_FoWLChicago> There it goes! Fly, little article, fly! http://wp.me/p2NHZJ-4G
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<nafebrown> morning
<wlp_FoWLChicago> good… morning?  Not morning here, mate!
<wlp_FoWLChicago> It’s 4:34PM on Thursday
<nafebrown> 7:35am on Friday here mate 🙂
<wlp_FoWLChicago> LOL maybe you meant “mourning” as in “mourning for Maggie  Thatcher”? lol
<nafebrown> lol
<nafebrown> Im actually surprised at how many people are talking about her all over the  globe
<nafebrown> Here in NSW it seems to be the hot topic everywhere.
<wlp_FoWLChicago> She made a huge impact in her time.  Almost exclusively bad.  If she  did any good we never heard of it
<nafebrown> she did alot of good, its just that she also did alot of bad lol
<wlp_FoWLChicago> What good did she do?
<wlp_FoWLChicago> Take your time thinking about that! lol
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<nafebrown> sorry
<nafebrown> privatisation of many industries to name one
<nafebrown> getting UK out of debt and changing it from being one of the poorest countries  in europe to being one of the richest
<nafebrown> their whole wars against the argentinians needed to happen, and she made it  so
<wlp_FoWLChicago> I’m sorry, everything must be upside-down to you in Oz… here that  was all bad lol
<nafebrown> How so?
<nafebrown> how is getting out of debt bad?
<wlp_FoWLChicago> Privatization cost tens of thousands their jobs, towns are still  economic wastelands 30 years later
<nafebrown> Or is it because the US are so far in debt that its now seen as a good thing? 😛
<wlp_FoWLChicago> The UK isn’t “out of debt” any more than the US is; and as far as UK  being one of “richest” countries in Europe, not true for workers.
<nafebrown> wlp_FoWLChicago, back when she was in power, it was
<wlp_FoWLChicago> No, you’re looking at these questions from standpoint of capitalist  class of UK, not from working class perspective.  Thatcher’s policies decimated UK  workers standards of living just as Reagan’s did here.
<nafebrown> your argument is based on a mining sector that had it a long time coming
<wlp_FoWLChicago> The war in the Falklands was a disaster, wholly unnecessary,  thousands were killed over that tiny island to make sun rise on long-gone British Empire  once more
<nafebrown> and a poll tax that while wasnt popular really assisted in getting the country  out of recession
<wlp_FoWLChicago> Look, “getting the country out of recession” in the eyes of whom?  The poll tax was a savage attack on the working class, making them pay for the bankruptcy  of capitalist system
<nafebrown> In the eyes of the world. The data is clear wlp_FoWLChicago.
<wlp_FoWLChicago> No the data is highly politicised.  Propping up the capitalist system  by slashing the jobs and wages of the workers is good for the 1%, not for the majority
<wlp_FoWLChicago> Look, Maggie has us arguing even now about it!
<wlp_FoWLChicago> Rotten beast she was.
<wlp_FoWLChicago> Are you a rich man or a worker?
<nafebrown> wlp_FoWLChicago, we can have differing opinions but please dont  disrespect the dead. Makes those that do no different to Westboro
<nafebrown> I am a carer, by no means rich at all.
<wlp_FoWLChicago> Maggie did worse than disrespecting the dead – she disrespected the  living.
<wlp_FoWLChicago> A carer… likehomecare of elderly?
<nafebrown> Thats your opinion and while I certainly agree theres no need to disrespect  anyone in death.
<nafebrown> I care for my two toddler nephews with disabilities
<wlp_FoWLChicago> Very nice. So you are of the working class but pro-capitalist?
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<nafebrown> Are you always this assumptive?
<wlp_FoWLChicago> Well there are two classes of people in capitalist society: workers  and capitalists.  You said you’re not rich so that leaves just one assumption to make.
<nafebrown> But why do you assume Im Pro-capitalist?
<wlp_FoWLChicago> Hey it’s 5PM here and you just woke up so this isn’t fair.
<wlp_FoWLChicago> Because you defended Thatcher’s economic policies, which were  and are considered to be among the most viciously pro-capitalist policies in modern history
<nafebrown> Its ironic, because a Capitalist approach worked to an extent 30 years ago,  and because I believe disrespecting the dead is rude Im Pro-captialist?
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<wlp_FoWLChicago> No; No, saying that disrespecting the dead is rude is not pro- capitalist.  See, it is too early for you. You need a cup of coffee. Cream or sugar?
<nafebrown> As I said the data is clear, it got them out of debt. It doesnt mean that Im pro- capitalist but rather that I have the ability to see the good in the bad.
<wlp_FoWLChicago> I don’t know where you read that Margaret Thatcher’s economic  policies “got the UK out of debt”.  Who gave you that idea?
<nafebrown> wlp_FoWLChicago, but thats the only argument you have to suggest Im pro- capitalist. I havent suggested that we use her techniques today or anything of the sort. The  only thing Ive said is that she got them out of debt.
<wlp_FoWLChicago> You said Thatcher did a lot of good and I disagreed.  Then you  defended her very PRO-CAPITALIST economic policies which makes you PRO- CAPITALIST. Period.
<nafebrown> wlp_FoWLChicago, then best of luck to you and your ignorant assumptions.
<wlp_FoWLChicago> You can’t decide how other people characterize your statements. In  the world of politics, someone who defends the arch-reactionary economic policies of a  Thatcher opens themselves up to other people very intelligently understanding them to be  right-wing and pro-capitalist.
<nafebrown> Incorrect wlp_FoWLChicago, If something works, it works. It doesnt make  you a pro-capitalist or anything of the sort.
<nafebrown> wlp_FoWLChicago, do you believe in god?
<wlp_FoWLChicago> Yes it does.
<wlp_FoWLChicago> No, I do not believe in god.
<nafebrown> Do you believe that anybody who does supports Westboro Baptist Church?
<wlp_FoWLChicago> The two beliefs are unrelated.  Belief in God does not mean belief  in Westboro Baptist Church.  Belief in the utility of Thatcher’s draconian economic policies  does mean you support a very harsh form of  capitalism though.
<nafebrown> Its a simple Yes or No question wlp_FoWLChicago
<nafebrown> Do you believe that anybody who does supports Westboro Baptist Church?
<nafebrown> Yet you believe that somebody who believes the fact that Thatcher got a  country out of recession three decades ago makes them a supporter of a pro-capitalist  society today. Ironic. Enjoy your day wlp_FoWLChicago
<wlp_983548> non sequitur
<wlp_FoWLChicago> Please, nafe, if you can, send us the data you have that shows how  Thatcher’s policies “got the UK out of debt”.  We’d love to read that. Send it in to  fowlchicago.wordpress.com
<wlp_FoWLChicago> Meanwhile, you can read this article on Bobby Sands  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bobby_Sands and The British Miners Strike in ’84-’85  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UK_miners%27_strike_%281984%E2%80%931985%29
<nafebrown> wlp_FoWLChicago, for what purpose?
<wlp_FoWLChicago> See how Thatcher’s policies wrought human suffering all over the  UK
<nafebrown> wlp_FoWLChicago I know
<nafebrown> As you choose to conveniently ignore, I agree that shes done alot of bad
<nafebrown> Ive said it several times
<wlp_FoWLChicago> Yeah but her WORST is what you say was her BEST!
<nafebrown> but her monetaristic approach worked. Its as simple as that
<wlp_FoWLChicago> Prove it.
<wlp_FoWLChicago> Prove it. Show us the data.
<wlp_FoWLChicago> You can’t just go around making absurd claims like that with no  documentary backup.
<nafebrown> Sure I’ll find some information for you now
<nafebrown> In the meantime, care to show me when and how UK got out of recession?
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<wlp_FoWLChicago> Which one? They’re still in the present one, as is the US and the rest  of the world.
<wlp_FoWLChicago> Throughout the 1980s revenue from the 90 per cent tax on North Sea  oil extraction was used as a short-term funding source to balance the economy and pay the  costs of reform.[95]
<wlp_FoWLChicago> That’s one way how Thatcher “got the UK out of recession”.  The  other was by driving unemployment to very high levels and smashing the unions, driving  down wages.
<nafebrown> When the Conservative Party led by Margaret Thatcher won the general  election of May 1979 and swept James Callaghan’s Labour Party from power, the country  had just witnessed the Winter of Discontent in which numerous public sector workers had  staged strikes. Inflation was about 10% and some 1,500,000 people were unemployed;  compared to some 1,000,000 in 1974, 580,000 in 1970 and just
<nafebrown> over 300,000 in 1964.[49] Margaret Thatcher set about to control inflation  with monetarist policies and change trade union laws in an attempt to reduce the strikes  which had blighted Britain for so many years.
<nafebrown> Mrs Thatcher’s battle against inflation resulted in the closure of many  inefficient factories, shipyards and coalpits – mostly during her first four-year term in  power. This helped bring inflation below 10% by the turn of 1982 (having peaked at 22%  in 1980) and by spring 1983 it had fallen to a 15-year low of 4%. Strikes were also at their  lowest level since the early 1950s.
<wlp_FoWLChicago> Source, please?
<wlp_FoWLChicago> Are you reading the WikiPedia?
<nafebrown> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_1980s_recession <– youll find the  relevant sources on the wiki
<wlp_FoWLChicago> lol I’m reading the one on Thatcher
<wlp_FoWLChicago> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_Thatcher
<nafebrown> Thing is wlp_FoWLChicago, while what she did ultimately went too far  reuslting in mass unemployment etc etc
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<nafebrown> she still got UK out of recession and as I said the data is clear
<FBIagentmanning> Is Mr Assange here?
<nafebrown> FBIagentmanning, Nope
<FBIagentmanning> fuck
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<nafebrown> I believe he is in an embassy overseas 🙂
<wlp_FoWLChicago> lol
<nafebrown> It took a new economic advisor to get her to stop
<nafebrown> forget his name
<nafebrown> but by that stage she sucked too much from the people
<wlp_FoWLChicago> Thatcher didn’t “get the UK out of recession”; the world capitalist  economy was in recession.  Politicians and central bankers have very little ‘control” over  the world economy.
<nafebrown> and if im not mistaken thats when she became “the witch”
<wlp_FoWLChicago> We called her “Maggot” Thatcher.  Still think that’s a good name for  her, and particularly apropos now.
<nafebrown> wlp_FoWLChicago, then how do you explain Australia’s ability to avoid it  this time around? Politicians and central bankers directly influence it.
<wlp_FoWLChicago> Has Australia’s economy not gone into recession?
<nafebrown> https://www.google.com.au/search? q=australia+avoids+recession&oq=australia+avoids+recession&aqs=chrome.0.57j…
<wlp_FoWLChicago> It may have something to do with the Australians having a much  higher minimum wage than the US
<nafebrown> Cost of living makes us even though
<wlp_FoWLChicago> The Australian minimum wage, as I understand it, is twice as high as  the US’
<nafebrown> wlp_FoWLChicago as are our costs
<wlp_FoWLChicago> No, the cost of living in Oz is much lower in relative terms than US
<nafebrown> really?
<nafebrown> how much do you pay to rent a 3 bedroom house in the outskirts of a city?
<nafebrown> $620 a week here
<wlp_FoWLChicago> All I have is anecdotal evidence from one US citizen who moved to  Oz and can’t move back to US because if she did her standard of living would decline too  far.
<wlp_FoWLChicago> We have no national health insurance; minimum wage is something  like $7.25/hr
<nafebrown> http://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/compare_countries_result.jsp? country1=United+States&country2=Australia
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<nafebrown> We pay alot more than US for most things
<nafebrown> and i recon i could argue cost of living is less over there however id be more  comfortable saying its about the same
<wlp_FoWLChicago> What’s the minimum wage in Aus?
<nafebrown> $5.87
<wlp_FoWLChicago> Cost of 3BR homes go by sq feet.
<wlp_FoWLChicago> $5.87?  I heard it was $16.00
<nafebrown> for a full time adult $15.96
<wlp_FoWLChicago> So why’d you give me that lowball number? That’s lacking in  “truthiness”.
<nafebrown> no, because the actual minimum wage, that is the lowest a working person  can earn per hour
<nafebrown> is $5.87
<wlp_FoWLChicago> For a full-time adult in the US: $7.25 if I’m not mistaken.
<wlp_FoWLChicago> A working “person” – you mean teen-ager.
<nafebrown> okay but again
<nafebrown> whats your average wage
<nafebrown> and then work out the average cost of living
<nafebrown> youll find we are much the same
<nafebrown> our government saved us through stimulus and icnreased spending
<nafebrown> ironically almost the polar oppisite of what thatcher did
<wlp_FoWLChicago> Besides the point.  In a modern capitalist society, 70% of a nation’s  economic activity comes from consumer spending.  US in a recession because millions of  workers ain’t paid shit, have no money to spend, therefore: recession.
<nafebrown> wlp_FoWLChicago, the link i showed you earlier has the data
<nafebrown> but now you ignore it?
<wlp_FoWLChicago> Your government didn’t “save” you from anything.  The business  cycle goes up and down.  Australia’s capitalist economy will have a recession sooner or  later.  It probably helps you that, being in the southern hemisphere, your economy is running  at full-tilt when ours in in the middle of the winter doldrums; and you benefit by having  your winter at a time when the food production in Northern Hemisphere is at peak, with  lowest prices of the year.
<wlp_FoWLChicago> There’s a number of reasons why your economy didn’t tank,  probably chief among those the fact that Aussie banks were investing in mining while their  European and American counterparts were investing in the US housing bubble?
<nafebrown> wtf
<nafebrown> wlp_FoWLChicago
<nafebrown> you have no idea lol
<wlp_FoWLChicago> No idea?
<nafebrown> you now make assertions about an economy only moment ago ddint know  werent actually in recession
<nafebrown> an economy where only moments ago you were arguing our cost of living is  less
<wlp_FoWLChicago> I study world economics – it may surprise you to know that the fact  that Australia is or isn’t in a recession at this moment in time is of no real significance;  unless the rest of the world pulls out of “their” recession soon, Australia will sink like a  rock; especially if demand for raw materials declines
<nafebrown> wlp_FoWLChicago, yet we are as strong as ever. funny that
<nafebrown> back shortly
<wlp_FoWLChicago> It’s just a matter of time; Australia’s “genius” politicians haven’t  found the secret of how to stay out of a recession.  If they had that formula they might do  their allies in the US and Europe a favor and share it with them.
<nafebrown> we did
<nafebrown> and hasnt obama been talking about stimulus packages and such?
<nafebrown> why do you think our treasurer was labelled the best treasurer in the world?
<wlp_FoWLChicago> You are full of silly talk.  Australia just barely avoided going into  recession in 2009; it’s economy is, as I said, deeply tied to China’s (which is slowing  down) and to mining (mining has risen from 20% of GDP to 40% of GDP in Oz.  As China  goes, so goes Australia.
<wlp_FoWLChicago> And what happened to your silly claim that Thatcher “got the UK out  of debt”?
<nafebrown> wlp_FoWLChicago, you like insulting people dont you?
<wlp_FoWLChicago> Not “out of recession”: “out of debt”?
<nafebrown> first a dead lady, now me
<nafebrown> keep insulting people and you’ll find yourself not welcome here.
<wlp_FoWLChicago> That was no “lady” that was Maggot Thatcher
<wlp_FoWLChicago> So what about this “Australian miracle”? Putting the nation’s eggs in  one basket: China!  God Save Communism!
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<nafebrown> you were warned
<wlp_FoWLChicago> You’ve been exposed.
<nafebrown> Exposed? Oh please
<nafebrown> I have no issue with you disagreeing with me
<nafebrown> but Im not going to tolerate insults
<wlp_FoWLChicago> Just now on Twitter.  As a fan of Maggot Thatcher’s draconian economics
<nafebrown> By all means, have a differing opinion but the moment you start insulting others is the moment I remove you from the chat room
<nafebrown> and its as simple as that
<wlp_FoWLChicago> And I saved the chat so now we’ll publish it on our blog.
<wlp_FoWLChicago> Like, right now.
<wlp_FoWLChicago> Have a nice WikiLeaks Party.
<nafebrown> wlp_FoWLChicago and by doing so you’ll likely ruin everyones ability to have mature discussions because you chose to be insulting
<nafebrown> its as simple as that
<wlp_FoWLChicago> Bye, got to go post your stupidity on the blog.  Have a nice day!
<nafebrown> so go do your tweets and run your blog. it doesnt change the fact that you were unable to hold mature discussion

[End of chat – Friends of WikiLeaks Chicago]

[Postscript: Just got kicked off the chat again by nafebrown for being “disrespectful” by calling a chatroom troll a “troll” and a “fence-sitting observer”.  Here’s a screenshot of the Chat:

Screenshot of WikiLeaks Party chatroom. Kicked off chat by nafebrown for second time.  11 April

Screenshot of WikiLeaks Party chatroom. Kicked off chat by nafebrown for second time. 11 April

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4 thoughts on “EXCLUSIVE: WikiLeaks Party of Australia: Fans of Margaret Thatcher?

  1. I missed the whole thing but I am pretty regular in the channel.

    Perhaps we should add to the topic:

    “Shit discussed, thrown and smeared in this IRC channel in the form of philosophical or political rants are not official Wikileaks party statements”.

    Seriously, we have hundreds of people joining asking to talk to Julian Assange directly every day…. Let’s be clear:

    This IRC channel is not the official party communication platform.

    I’ve talked to nafebrown (who is actually a nice guy) and others in the channel who were present and they all agreed you were kicked and banned repeatedly for being rude and abusive. I’m sure there is much, much more detail you’d like to add, but the point remains you were kicked and banned for your language and treatment of other users – not your political views.

    Personally I think you should join again, and perhaps in the future we can provide you with better stories to cover on your blog than just minor IRC dramas.

    Cheers

    Posted by bnasun | April 12, 2013, 6:22 PM
    • The “Official WikiLeaks Party Chat” we accessed through the official WikiLeaks Party of Australia website. The screenshot we appended to our article shows clearly that the IRC chat window on the official WikiLeaks Party website is surrounded by official WikiLeaks Party propaganda, including buttons for donations and Julian Assange’s blog. To claim that the statements being made by the official admin of the official WikiLeaks Party of Australia’s official chatroom should not be taken as in any way reflecting the political positions of the WikiLeaks Party of Australia is ABSURD!
      Perhaps you did not read the transcript of nafebrown’s quite open discussion of his repulsive pro-Thatcher opinions; he supported her attacks on the Miners Union; he supported the attacks she waged on Argentina; and he even supported the hated Poll Tax! If you think that opinions like that make nafebrown “a nice guy” then we have a question for you: Are YOU a member of the WikiLeaks Party of Australia? And if so, does your party propose a poll tax in Australia? If you do not know what a poll tax is, then you will, and soon.
      Creating a political party that wishes to take power someday, responsible for food, clothing, shelter, education and the health care needs of millions of Australian workers is not a job for amateurs! And you, sir or madam, are, to be overly polite (if we are to cut you all the slack available on planet Earth) at the most innocent, a political amateur if you think that advocacy in favor of the poll tax on the Official WikiLeaks Party of Australia website is O.K.! Your party will sink like a rock if you advocate such draconian economic measures as those carried out by Thatcher are allowed to be advocated on your official website by your own admins! And we’ll be among those firing every political torpedo we possess to help send The WikiLeaks Party of Australia to the bottom of the Marianas Trench where it belongs if you do so!

      At this point, with the WikiLeaks Party of Australia having come out foursquare in favor of capitalism we can not support the WikiLeaks Party of Australia politically; and with at least two of their members having come out in defense of the Poll Tax and Maggot Thatcher’s economic policies, we are readying all our political torpedoes for immediate launch. To your battle stations, workers of Australia!

      Friends of WikiLeaks Chicago

      Posted by fowlchicago | April 14, 2013, 10:10 AM
  2. As you pasted above the rules of the chat room are clearly displayed when entering the room. *** Topic is: We are on an IRC Channel, say hi and hang around to chat. This chat will be run by supporters, so please follow some basic rules of common decency. Please do not verbally abuse, attack, embarrass, or threaten anyone else in the chat room. Do not use obscene, offensive, or sexually explicit language. It is not generally considered to be in good taste to ask perosnal details of another use

    Whilst there is a typo perosnal = personal .. and the user is missing the r off the end, saying only ‘use’, the rules are clear.

    – This chat will be run by supporters, so please follow some basic rules of common decency.
    – Please do not verbally abuse, attack, embarrass, or threaten anyone else in the chat room.
    – Do not use obscene, offensive, or sexually explicit language.
    – It is not generally considered to be in good taste to ask personal details of another user

    karwalski

    Posted by karwalski | April 12, 2013, 11:07 PM
    • You forgot to edit out the name of the guy not relevant to the conversation in your own reply message i think. Just a poke incase u missed it.
      Greetings from a Norwegian WL supporter.

      Posted by Anonymous | April 20, 2013, 3:58 AM

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